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Isthisidok

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Seems like every company brainwashes you to believe your angus beef program is the best but does anyone have any true results from cuttings and yield tests to back up the claim? From stockyards to Iowa premium, halpriens to braveheart.

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Retiredfoodpro

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CAB is truly a stand alone product.  That said, I have seen cuttings using upper 2/3 USDA choice boxed beef against CAB and it's almost impossible to see, feel, smell or taste the difference. The marbling is the secret sauce inside CAB and consistency. CAB will almost always be the most expensive for marketing reasons.

The answer to your question is:  Upper 2/3rd choice beef is graded as such with the exception of the feed the animal ate. It's all pretty much the same specie (black angus) with minor variations in location and regions. 
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My experience has been all top grades are the same in food service however in retail CAB is generally my choice for grilling
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http://counties.agrilife.org/washington/files/2016/04/Trends-in-the-Choice-Select-Spread-and-Implication-to-Cattle-Producers.pdf


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CAB is so diluted these days not what it used to be. Meyers and Harris Ranch have  great genetically verified programs, it's a great product. But I'm sure there are some other great programs out there.

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I worked for one of the largest beef packers for the bulk of my foodservice life - that packer sold CAB, their own branded upper 2/3 program, and a number of private label upper 2/3 choice programs.  This experience gives me the ability to see across the different brands in terms of quality.

Upper 2/3 beef is a commodity - once graded - the exact same upper 2/3rd's product rolls into all the brands.  There is literally no difference in quality going into the box.

Once it leaves the packers - you may see some differences.  The biggest being aging - aging takes place at the distributor not at the packer.  Both CAB and our brand of packer label both required aging at the distributor for 21 days.  Both CAB and our business was very strict in this requirement.  As you get into some of the distributor brands - they own the aging so god only knows what they are doing but you all start with the same beef so if you are an end user keep an eye on the dates - you want product to be aged around 20 days when it hits your back door.

Whoever is stating that CAB has better quality than competitive upper 2/3rds choice programs is flat out incorrect.  CAB is a marketing company - nothing more.  They do not touch the beef or add any enhancement other than marketing.  When you purchase CAB, you are paying extra money for the brand.  I am not saying that does not have value because it definitely does (Heinz ketchup vs. private label) - CAB is recognized across the country and brings a premium both from the distributor and on the menu.  But from a quality standpoint - absolutely no difference.
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It's not just about upper 2/3rds. There is other Specs attached to programs in the sort, that's where the rubber meets the road.
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I have had old reps tell me,as a matter of actual fact,that a lot of early cut product went out labeled CAB,but was not. The tonnage never added up. Hence,a few early houses got fat on premium pricing.
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I have had old reps tell me,as a matter of actual fact,that a lot of early cut product went out labeled CAB,but was not. The tonnage never added up. Hence,a few early houses got fat on premium pricing.
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Old reps, from where? They have no way of knowing the reporting and tracking of product. You do not know as a matter of fact! I have been involved with program for 15 years and they have a brand to protect. It has been sold as choice without brand credit from unlicensed meat companies. Their reporting matches up.
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ou812

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I am going back 20 yrs ago. Sorry,but you don't know everything
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I guess that's why they call it foodserviverumors.com. Maybe we should change it to FoodserviceassumptionseverythingIhearfromoldsalesguysIbelieve.com.
The defence mechanism is strong with this one Master Yoda! You guys are a riot, CAB would have never let it go long enough for someone to get Fat even if it did happen. Knowing margin on Beef and if it truly wasnt CAB, customers would not have grown the program and their sales!
And because I am familiar with the program, know the tracking, you assume I think I know everything? Maybe because you got called out for believing this Krap!!!
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I guess that's why they call it foodserviverumors.com. Maybe we should change it to FoodserviceassumptionseverythingIhearfromoldsalesguysIbelieve.com.
The defence mechanism is strong with this one Master Yoda! You guys are a riot, CAB would have never let it go long enough for someone to get Fat even if it did happen. Knowing margin on Beef and if it truly wasnt CAB, customers would not have grown the program and their sales!
And because I am familiar with the program, know the tracking, you assume I think I know everything? Maybe because you got called out for believing this Krap!!!




   Just to be clear. C.A.B. like Boars Head is a marketing entity. Many different people make the product, it's a hide specific program not a breed specific meaning most any black cow will do. It has lead to a bastardization of the meaning of Angus Beef. You know they are Conmen just like you Conman44. 

Maybe we should call this site Syscodsmlikestostirshitwhilespoutingthecompanypropoganda.com
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You are correct on CAB, they own no animals, however they were started by the American Angus association, a fairly reputable entity. I will not disagree with you on the dilution of Black Hided animals even within the within the ranks of CAB. But the specs pretty much keep the genetics where they should be. Wrong on the DSM thing though, why do you guys assume just because I call you out on your misinformation that I am not a salesman?
Besides this board is stale and needs some livening up, remember the internet was invented so we could call people out on Bullshit and then stir it up a little bit.
Funny, I am not usually a Troll but some of you are incredibly easy targets.
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ou812

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I realize that the CAB program and others like are heavily monitored. However,I've have been peddling food for 40 plus years and have a great network of old reliable contacts throughout the industry. Cheating early on was how one particular house and many others got fat. 

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