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Wesley Bryan a scion of the notorious Bryan family won the PGA Tour event at Sea Pine Islands this past weekend.  Jonathan Bryan owned the largest plantation in Georgia during the 1700's with over 1,000 slaves. Jonathan Bryan was British and member of the Anglican Church of England. He would turn Georgia over to the Crown. Jonathan Bryan would introduce religious irrationalism like speaking in tongues and snake charming to his former slaves as a form of control. (Mr. Food still suffers from this mental disease)  Eventually Bryan family members ran companies like Sara Lee , Royal Dutch Shell and others. Judge Albert Vickers Bryan would run "Inter Arms" the largest private weapons trafficker in the world at the time.

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I'm not trying to argue this Investigator.

I did enjoy the story and the link though.  I'll have to look more into that...
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You title this as "heir to Sara  Lee...."

Aside from selling a family meat business to SL9now Hillshire) where is the "heir" connection?

Born in 1708, what nationality would you have thought him to be?

He didn't turn GA over to the crown. 

Aside from LaRouche publishing, where are you getting such insightful information?  Ancestry.com?

Is this a sports story or a food story? 

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You title this as "heir to Sara  Lee...."

Aside from selling a family meat business to SL9now Hillshire) where is the "heir" connection?

Born in 1708, what nationality would you have thought him to be?

He didn't turn GA over to the crown. 

Aside from LaRouche publishing, where are you getting such insightful information?  Ancestry.com?

Is this a sports story or a food story? 


This from the guy that cannot seem to comply with a simple request for clarification after 5 years of asking ? Last time we seemed to get close to getting an answer you disappeared again, until now. Maybe you might show some manners and try providing me a long overdue answer before you start demanding answers.

I reviewed my statement and I did not see that I made any reference to Jonathan Bryan's birthdate so I assume you learned his birthdate from your own reading. So keep reading,  what do you need from me?

An heir is someone legally entitled to property of another upon that person's death. What's the problem?

And if you're googling the name Judge Albert V Bryan why do you need to ask me a darn thing? Do your own reading.

Is it a sports story or food story---you always ask the wrong question don't you?




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Okay.

You've never accepted my explanation of "vertical integration" as it pertained to Standard Oil.  I'll try one more time.  I simply was suggesting that the hidden rebates JDR received were not the only reason for that company's successes.  I completely acknowledge the advantage he had with exclusive shipping advantage regarding freight.

Manners?  That's ironic coming from you.

Demanding?  I'm not demanding anything; only asking for your historical source(s) that provide this golfer as an "heir to the Sara Lee fortune...." and use of the word "notorious" in describing his family. 

I know the definition of "heir" but when his family passes down assets, he is not receiving Sara Lee.




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Okay.

You've never accepted my explanation of "vertical integration" as it pertained to Standard Oil.  I'll try one more time.  I simply was suggesting that the hidden rebates JDR received were not the only reason for that company's successes.  I completely acknowledge the advantage he had with exclusive shipping advantage regarding freight.

Manners?  That's ironic coming from you.

Demanding?  I'm not demanding anything; only asking for your historical source(s) that provide this golfer as an "heir to the Sara Lee fortune...." and use of the word "notorious" in describing his family. 

I know the definition of "heir" but when his family passes down assets, he is not receiving Sara Lee.






I never asked for an explanation of "vertical integration" and you know it, so here you start once again evading a 5 year old question that you know you cant give a rational explanation. So rather than admit your answer was comical you pretend I've been focused on the vertical integration of SONY.  

And as far as your Bryan family questions it's apparent to me that you have used search engines trying to locate information. I never mentioned any LaRouche publications for instance, which tells me you find Judge Bryan connected to the legal cases of the late 1980's regarding the LaRouche governmental prosecutions. Given that why do you have to ask me when you can simply do your own work?

As far as "notorious" I think the public record is chocked full of history of the Bryan family to support that description.

Let me guess, you're a meat head from the Southeast and you are taken aback that the Bryan family accumulated much of it' wealth from slave driven plantations and as late as the 1980's were the leading private arms trafficker in the world. This country has had a British Empire problem since before the American Revolution and all of our problems to this very day are caused by the British Empire; and the Bryan family pledges it loyalty to the Empire. The Southern slave holder faction and the British Empire have been hand in hand for centuries.


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Let's make this easy.  I'm not going to go through threads to find the question you say I'm avoiding.  But, if you ask me here, I'll answer it.  BTW, I have no idea why you referenced SONY.

Why you won't share your source(s) of the Bryan family is comical, as well.  It has nothing to do with doing my own work - if you don't find it peculiar that LaRouche publications wrote a negative piece on the family of the Judge who adjudicated the LaRouche complaint(being from that family), then I don't know what to say.

Not from the SE, though I do own a vacation home there. 

Your fascination of the British is _______________.

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Let's make this easy.  I'm not going to go through threads to find the question you say I'm avoiding.  But, if you ask me here, I'll answer it.  BTW, I have no idea why you referenced SONY.

Why you won't share your source(s) of the Bryan family is comical, as well.  It has nothing to do with doing my own work - if you don't find it peculiar that LaRouche publications wrote a negative piece on the family of the Judge who adjudicated the LaRouche complaint(being from that family), then I don't know what to say.

Not from the SE, though I do own a vacation home there. 

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You're listing sources. It's obvious with your listing of Jonathan Bryan's birthday and mentioning LaRouche publications that you're searching out facts about the Bryan family.

So once again, why do you come sniffing up my arse badgering me to engage you in this ongoing game? Do you also believe in "secret sources"? By the way, how do you find LaRouche publications, did they come to you in a dream? See, you're such a liar you wont admit to running these Bryan family  names through s search engine even though that's the only way you would be able to reference "LaRouche publications". You'd rather play coy with me asking me my sources, as if you're some kind of media reporter vetting a story for accuracy.

 And your moronic comment from 1/2 decade ago was vertical integration negated Steve's comments that Standard Oil used "rebates" to bankrupt the small producers, just like we see in foodservice.
Now after one half decade and countless requests, you don't even know what you said. How can it be true if you cannot even remember what you claimed? That wouldn't be possible if what you asserted was true.

PS- and now I have a fascination with the British. Not nearly as intense as your desire to shove your nose up my ass.


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If I'm not mistaken, the original item surrounded US Foods and a 3rd party billing/shell company.  Is that accurate?

Inflating costs to the end user is entirely different than one company having hidden freight advantage.  If you can't see that, you're blind; no matter how angry/sophomoric and visceral you want to get. 

Steve, all apologies if my "comment" negated your statement.  Never intended, only believed there were other items in play, as well.  Please accept my apology so Investigator will let this go.

BTW - within that same thread I believe I stated I had no issue with US being fined. 

I won't reply to all the other because you've just taken the opportunity to move topics again and it is tiring to try and answer then have you bring up a whole new set of items.

In the end, if Steve accepts this apology, I'm certain the issue is closed.

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If I'm not mistaken, the original item surrounded US Foods and a 3rd party billing/shell company.  Is that accurate?

Inflating costs to the end user is entirely different than one company having hidden freight advantage.  If you can't see that, you're blind; no matter how angry/sophomoric and visceral you want to get. 

Steve, all apologies if my "comment" negated your statement.  Never intended, only believed there were other items in play, as well.  Please accept my apology so Investigator will let this go.

BTW - within that same thread I believe I stated I had no issue with US being fined. 

I won't reply to all the other because you've just taken the opportunity to move topics again and it is tiring to try and answer then have you bring up a whole new set of items.

In the end, if Steve accepts this apology, I'm certain the issue is closed.


Moron, it doesn't require an apology it requires an explanation. What is wrong with you? Please tell me after nearly 6 years how vertical integration negates the consolidating effect of these rebates? See if you really knew what you were talking about we wouldn't have to play this "memory" game.

Isn't that a simple and straight forward request? No one asked you about your take on US being fined.

Now you've bugged me for the past 3 days for information about the Bryan family all while pretending that you haven't done your own looking,  but when I ask for an explanation that only you can give, you seem lost to the point of being retarded.  


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JFC, you couldn't be more lost if you were a blind man, in a round room looking for a door that doesn't exist.

The comment was NEVER intended to negate the rebate aspect.  I hope you the know the definition of negate.  My comment, and you just see trees, not forests, was that in addition to his exclusive rebates, other advantages helped Standard Oil. 

Why is that so hard for you to process?

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JFC, you couldn't be more lost if you were a blind man, in a round room looking for a door that doesn't exist.

The comment was NEVER intended to negate the rebate aspect.  I hope you the know the definition of negate.  My comment, and you just see trees, not forests, was that in addition to his exclusive rebates, other advantages helped Standard Oil. 

Why is that so hard for you to process?


You should be able to prove that then, correct? Just get the topic thread and post the link. Can you recall the purpose of your vertical integration comment? Seeing as the discussion was the evils of rebates, this tends to weaken your excuse. And I never claimed you made any comment about rebates. What I stated you moron is that you claimed Standard Oil was vertically integrated and therefore there was no rational comparison between consolidating foodservice channels  through the use of these rebates and what Standard did to their competitors. I mean talk about blind, I have had to repeat myself over and over again with you, you dummy.

But  still no answer. It's amazing. All we ever get from moron's like you are these witty little phrases about stats , mini skirts and the like.

And I suppose I'll wait another 6 years asking you how you got the birthdate of Jonathan Bryan? You just cant admit to running the family name through a search engine, instead preferring to pester me for information you already had.
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Since we're on the subject of Sarah Lee, isn't the blueberry pound cake to die for?
Jeez I could eat the whole thing in one sitting..
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Peddler - good one there.

Investigator - Through a minimum of three threads now I have clearly stated my comment(s) comparing Standard and US were not meant to negate Steve's rebate comment.  You can carve, dice and parse what I've stated as often as you like.  I'm finished with this because you won't allow any room in this.  I even wrote more than twice that I agreed with much of what you wrote but you insist on the mean spirited approach.

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Peddler - good one there.

Investigator - Through a minimum of three threads now I have clearly stated my comment(s) comparing Standard and US were not meant to negate Steve's rebate comment.  You can carve, dice and parse what I've stated as often as you like.  I'm finished with this because you won't allow any room in this.  I even wrote more than twice that I agreed with much of what you wrote but you insist on the mean spirited approach.

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Run and hide. Typical of "Wilson Tennis has no balls".

Get the old thread and back up your claim. You don't want to do that do you? I've already reviewed it so I know the truth.
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