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nonstop

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Well as I have posted in the past on this forum I have been a loyal Sysco employee for 12 years. Well now I am seriously thinking of breaking ranks with Sysco as I have lost faith in my opco’s ability to let sales sell food and make money.

When you look at your w2’s for 4 years and then look at your year to date paycheck this year and there is a steady decline in earnings With a growth in sales it becomes extremely frustrating, but I guess that management if fine while we work harder for less money and they make their bonus’s. (Even though we are told every sales meeting “we want you to be the highest paid sales force in the industry” mean while the competition is making an additional 1.25% commission to sales higher than us)

Here is my delima, after 12 years working for this company I feel like I am turning my back on people that I call family and friends but with that being said MY FAMILY TAKES PRIORITY.

My question is with all of these issues I am having a problem coming to terms possibly working for a company that I sold against for years and feel like a traitor even thinking about this.

I just keep wondering to myself what have we done wrong as sales reps? How have we failed you? When did you forget that if there were no Salesforce ALL OF YOUR SALARIES would not be there?

Many of us here in the south feel that Sysco just doesn’t care anymore. With the massive pads, lack of inventory, and COMPLETE LACK OF SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE IN THE OPCO is going to cause most of the quality sales reps that work for Sysco to jump to the competition. Which has already started happening and another wave of desertions is on their way.

My question is if given the situation that I am in now would you seriously entertain the idea of going to the competition given the opertunity?

I don’t post much am and not a whiner I am just curious about other people’s opinions on this situation given the circumstances and Sysco’s track record and need honest awnsers.
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I find the 1.25% commission to sales increase at other broadeners hard to believe as my top earners inch towards 3% max and average is 2%. All companies are doing what they can to control sales expense as margins continue to be pressed. We have reduced sales reps by near 50% in the last 3 years in one of the top 4 distribution centers in the country. 
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nonstop

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Well I don’t know what opco your at but at this opco our average % to sales for our sales force in 1.5%. ( and that is during peak season)


Hence the reason for upset salesforce.
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You are asking questions of humanity to a non-human entity, the corporation. Of course all corporations are run by actual humans... however they usually share a similar personality flaw


so·ci·o·path
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  1. a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
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or .. if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. 

Apply for a promotion.
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SyscoWCFRetiree

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After 16 years at Sysco, it was like a fresh breath of air when I left for the competition. Remember big blue will drop you like a rock whenever they want, no employee loyalty.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nonstop
Well as I have posted in the past on this forum I have been a loyal Sysco employee for 12 years. Well now I am seriously thinking of breaking ranks with Sysco as I have lost faith in my opco’s ability to let sales sell food and make money. When you look at your w2’s for 4 years and then look at your year to date paycheck this year and there is a steady decline in earnings With a growth in sales it becomes extremely frustrating, but I guess that management if fine while we work harder for less money and they make their bonus’s. (Even though we are told every sales meeting “we want you to be the highest paid sales force in the industry” mean while the competition is making an additional 1.25% commission to sales higher than us) Here is my delima, after 12 years working for this company I feel like I am turning my back on people that I call family and friends but with that being said MY FAMILY TAKES PRIORITY. My question is with all of these issues I am having a problem coming to terms possibly working for a company that I sold against for years and feel like a traitor even thinking about this. I just keep wondering to myself what have we done wrong as sales reps? How have we failed you? When did you forget that if there were no Salesforce ALL OF YOUR SALARIES would not be there? Many of us here in the south feel that Sysco just doesn’t care anymore. With the massive pads, lack of inventory, and COMPLETE LACK OF SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE IN THE OPCO is going to cause most of the quality sales reps that work for Sysco to jump to the competition. Which has already started happening and another wave of desertions is on their way. My question is if given the situation that I am in now would you seriously entertain the idea of going to the competition given the opertunity? I don’t post much am and not a whiner I am just curious about other people’s opinions on this situation given the circumstances and Sysco’s track record and need honest awnsers.
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Well I don’t know what opco your at but at this opco our average % to sales for our sales force in 1.5%. ( and that is during peak season) Hence the reason for upset salesforce.


So you're saying a DSR writing $5 million annually in sales sees $75K in annual commission/compensation? No wonder the title of this thread is 'Thinking of Change". 

And on that same $5 million in products moving down the poop shoot, your criminal employer in connivance with your criminal suppliers is skimming off between $500mm to $1 million in inflated cost.  A rep writing $5 million annually in sales has to hump his ass for a decade to make the same cash his employer takes in just 12 months time off their sales reps  sales territory. You gotta luv the simplicity of this crime. Fake invoices, it's so simple. 

You guys are in a no win game with your employer holding all the cards. He's loading the price point upward so that he can skim off the difference between their invoiced price and what they actually pay for the product; moving you off to survive on the pennies they leave you. Yes "Thinking of change". 


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SonofAbeach

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nonstop - you are not alone in your thoughts on how Sysco has changed in the South. I know all too many Sales Reps that have left after years of service with Big Blue, it is just not the same anymore and you would not be turning your back or backstabbing any local Sysco Family because they all know it is not run locally anymore Houston is Controlling everything. Everyone that I know that has left is very happy, and there families are happier. Some Sysco Reps have even left to become Brokers and Manufacture Regionals just to get away from that part of it all together.
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I find the 1.25% commission to sales increase at other broadeners hard to believe as my top earners inch towards 3% max and average is 2%. All companies are doing what they can to control sales expense as margins continue to be pressed. We have reduced sales reps by near 50% in the last 3 years in one of the top 4 distribution centers in the country. 


Sidney if the company employs a fixed commission rate then what "sales" cost is there to control? And do tell me more about the mysterious dynamic that pressures "margins". The only pressure I see is all the accumulated debt that has been incurred at all levels of the industry as it's gone through umpteen different phases of consolidation mostly accomplished via leveraged debt. 

How many dollars of debt versus dollars of sales today versus say 1985? I bet the rate ratios would stun people. 
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Getting paid 1.5% on sell is totally insane to me! We pay our guys an average of 8% on sell. We are a paper only company and I will write just under $3mil in total sales and my pretax commission for the year will be around $230k. I actually do not know how they get people to work for so little. You need to switch jobs...yesterday.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nonstop
Well as I have posted in the past on this forum I have been a loyal Sysco employee for 12 years. Well now I am seriously thinking of breaking ranks with Sysco as I have lost faith in my opco’s ability to let sales sell food and make money. When you look at your w2’s for 4 years and then look at your year to date paycheck this year and there is a steady decline in earnings With a growth in sales it becomes extremely frustrating, but I guess that management if fine while we work harder for less money and they make their bonus’s. (Even though we are told every sales meeting “we want you to be the highest paid sales force in the industry” mean while the competition is making an additional 1.25% commission to sales higher than us) Here is my delima, after 12 years working for this company I feel like I am turning my back on people that I call family and friends but with that being said MY FAMILY TAKES PRIORITY. My question is with all of these issues I am having a problem coming to terms possibly working for a company that I sold against for years and feel like a traitor even thinking about this. I just keep wondering to myself what have we done wrong as sales reps? How have we failed you? When did you forget that if there were no Salesforce ALL OF YOUR SALARIES would not be there? Many of us here in the south feel that Sysco just doesn’t care anymore. With the massive pads, lack of inventory, and COMPLETE LACK OF SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE IN THE OPCO is going to cause most of the quality sales reps that work for Sysco to jump to the competition. Which has already started happening and another wave of desertions is on their way. My question is if given the situation that I am in now would you seriously entertain the idea of going to the competition given the opertunity? I don’t post much am and not a whiner I am just curious about other people’s opinions on this situation given the circumstances and Sysco’s track record and need honest awnsers.
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brokerexpert

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I can empathize with you regarding the commission rate, we hired a couple of Sysco reps and they were quite happy and adjusted easily into the brokerage business, there are other opportunities in the industry.
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Rumor Man

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Those of us that have left Sysco refer to that fear of leaving "the Blue Flu".  It takes some time to get that stink out of your system, but once you do, you'll be glad you did.  The first step is leaving.  Sysco doesn't care about you or they would already be taking care of you.  Good luck.





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Well as I have posted in the past on this forum I have been a loyal Sysco employee for 12 years. Well now I am seriously thinking of breaking ranks with Sysco as I have lost faith in my opco’s ability to let sales sell food and make money. When you look at your w2’s for 4 years and then look at your year to date paycheck this year and there is a steady decline in earnings With a growth in sales it becomes extremely frustrating, but I guess that management if fine while we work harder for less money and they make their bonus’s. (Even though we are told every sales meeting “we want you to be the highest paid sales force in the industry” mean while the competition is making an additional 1.25% commission to sales higher than us) Here is my delima, after 12 years working for this company I feel like I am turning my back on people that I call family and friends but with that being said MY FAMILY TAKES PRIORITY. My question is with all of these issues I am having a problem coming to terms possibly working for a company that I sold against for years and feel like a traitor even thinking about this. I just keep wondering to myself what have we done wrong as sales reps? How have we failed you? When did you forget that if there were no Salesforce ALL OF YOUR SALARIES would not be there? Many of us here in the south feel that Sysco just doesn’t care anymore. With the massive pads, lack of inventory, and COMPLETE LACK OF SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE IN THE OPCO is going to cause most of the quality sales reps that work for Sysco to jump to the competition. Which has already started happening and another wave of desertions is on their way. My question is if given the situation that I am in now would you seriously entertain the idea of going to the competition given the opertunity? I don’t post much am and not a whiner I am just curious about other people’s opinions on this situation given the circumstances and Sysco’s track record and need honest awnsers.




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They want you to leave, are you really this stupid.
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SonofAbeach

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Make the change! In about 3-5 years you will be so happy that you did.
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