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BizConsultant

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Why do they not just print the plan and give it to us ?

Are they trying to get people to leave ?

Does the noncompete become void since they are not disclosing how we will get paid ? I would doubt it ..
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Don't you get a weekly report? I do. It's all right there.
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Yes I do . However it gives no information needed to plan for 2019 fix wage increase... as of next week I will be $300+ Per week below what I have been earning ... I am glad you are in a growth period , you will have an advantage for awhile.
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Biz, non competes are not enforceable in many states like CA and NC. I don’t know where you are, but look up your states laws on that. People move within the industry all the time though. As long as you aren’t under some kind of guarantee, you should be able to do whatever you need to do to make a living. If you move to another company, have that discussion and get them to agree to legally represent you if they try to come after you for moving on. People leave all the time and go to the competition. Usually it’s no problem.
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The US Foods houses I have experience with will fight tooth and nail
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No company will just let business go when a salesperson leaves. They will use whatever resources necessary to prevent that. Been through it twice. Only way to move the business is if new employer covers legal fees then fights on your behalf in court or with lawyers. That’s what is difficult when thinking about leaving. It’s hard to start over from zero when you establish relationships over many years. Just my 2 cents
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I wonder what happens if I do not sign the agreement this fall .... and ride out past first quarter into 2019
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Good luck if you can slide on signing non compete. In my experience boss wants that signed immediately and especially since US is changing pay structure they will see many reps not want to sign
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Yes, non-compete agreements are hard to enforce in some states, but challenge is that the bigger companies can throw more money at a vigorous defense than most individuals can spend, and they wear you down financially. I do not agree with the attempt to limit where you can make a living, but understand they are afraid of an individual leaving and taking his/her customers with them.
Treat them well while they are there, and the desire to look elsewhere diminishes.


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Its been my experience that TM's who do not want to sign a non compete the only down side is participation in points of focus. Other than that your DSM will keep after you to sign because he is being drilled as to why you wont comply but thats it, I would imagine 30% of the sales force should not sign the non compete this year. 
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If that happened they would just pull the POF program.. lol. This pay change is a tough one .. management says you can do better on the new plan , I did better on cookbook , I had all the information and worked it hard early so I did not get hurt. This one I can see the positive parts , but the down side is big for right now ... if they would have said hey we are doing this and will take effect Jan first 2019 , that would have been far better to get ready for ... summer sales are higher nation wide - this is saving the company a lot by not paying out the higher summer commission .
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New development. You can offer customers new kitchens! Not even kidding. Corona started it this week as a way to try to bring back lost business. I’m in Corona. We tried and that customer knows they will pay later, so they said no way (smart)but maybe you can try it on others who don’t understand that? If you don’t care too much. There’s a big bill that comes later, but hay, instant gratification right? Really though, we are offering new kitchens.
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Anyway, are we all prepared to live on a 30% pay cut? I had to make some adjustments. That’s a big change.
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New development. You can offer customers new kitchens! Not even kidding. Corona started it this week as a way to try to bring back lost business. I’m in Corona. We tried and that customer knows they will pay later, so they said no way (smart)but maybe you can try it on others who don’t understand that? If you don’t care too much. There’s a big bill that comes later, but hay, instant gratification right? Really though, we are offering new kitchens.


US Foods doesn't have a contract design department. Hpw are they offering to build a new kitchen?

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US Foods doesn't have a contract design department. Hpw are they offering to build a new kitchen?


I have no clue. But it was proposed. I don’t know how they were planning on doing it, but knowing what I know, there will be zero follow through. It’s 87 months until approval and then another 15 years until it comes to fruition. For f sake, we cannot even pick up a phone and find a truck anymore. But, we are making false promises. And it’s fake. No follow through. At all.

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I worked for a contract design company and for a distributor that had a contract design department. We dealt with many people who thought opening a restaurant was a license to print money, and soon found out they were in over their heads. 

Restaurant design and installation is a complicated process. The permit process differs from county to county and city to city across the country. Financing is very specific. The average restaurant now costs over $1 million to build. Are the TMs going to get a finder's fee or commission on the sale?
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